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    Notwithstanding its complexities, it seems like a good organizational approach, though I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "one territory" at the end of your post.


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    I think it's better to organize it that way because it's better to say If you "control these territories" then "this happens," which is already how continents work. This also includes one territory continents, thus it's better than choosing specific territories as spawning or carnivorous, because the continent modification system covers the single territory system, while the single territory system does not cover owning a full continent causing a spawning or carnivorous territory to appear.


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    Edward Nygma wrote: I've been talking for a long time about continent modifiers, and I think this should fall under that category. I envision a sub-menu system where there's a cause and effect section. IF Cause = Continent ownership THEN Effect = +/- unit count, +/- borders, +/- units in specified territory, +/- Border modifiers, etc. I suppose barren doesn't work this way, but for spawning and carnivorous territories, you could set 1 territory to be the continent, then have the effect be specified unit placement, or specified unit loss, but it also leaves the option open to say if you have all of these territories, this one starts losing units or gaining them, which, in my opinion, is better than specifying one territory.


    something along these lines would help on my attempts at a Kensington board.


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    During a conversation with Ed. N. about his Remote Control Board (I think he wants to make some improvements on it), I suggested that he might put clouds on the board. This morning I had a thought about a possible territory feature:

    Invisible or Permanently Fogged: Only overridden by an explicitly placed view border. Possibly you could have a pull-down menu for what is fogged: # of ArmiesPlayer Control, or Both.

    I haven't given too much thought to how many applications it could have, but it seems like there could be quite a few.

    Edited Fri 18th Jun 08:25 [history]

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    M57 wrote:

    Invisible or Permanently Fogged: Only overridden by an explicitly placed view border. Possibly you could have a pull-down menu for what is fogged: # of ArmiesPlayer Control, or Both.

    I haven't given too much thought to how many applications it could have, but it seems like there could be quite a few.

    A Fog setting per territory (or allowed to be overridden at the territory level) has been talked about on the WF forums (just for kicks) and I think it's been brought up a time or two here.  It would be kind of cool, but with the ability to have custom Fog I know I would be annoyed/stay away of some of the implementations of it :P

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    There's good and bad to most suggestions. I'm happy with how far the site has come so far already. I have ideas of things I would like implemented, but I have to give tom "hella credit" for what he's done already. You too Yertle, thanks for admin-ing.


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    Ok, this may have been suggested before but I can't find it.
    How about an "ownerless" fog. A fog where you can see the number of units on all of the spaces but not the owner. The opposite of the current fog system. There would have to be a light and heavy ownerless fog.
    For example light ownerless would show you unit counts on all spaces but only show you the owner in adjacent spaces.
    Heavy ownerless would show you unit counts in adjacent spaces but not owners.
    I could also see an application for seeing unit counts on all spaces and no owner information at all and seeing owners of all spaces but no unit counts at all.
    Credit to Amidon37 for the initial idea.

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    Raptor wrote: Ok, this may have been suggested before but I can't find it.
    How about an "ownerless" fog. A fog where you can see the number of units on all of the spaces but not the owner. The opposite of the current fog system. There would have to be a light and heavy ownerless fog.
    For example light ownerless would show you unit counts on all spaces but only show you the owner in adjacent spaces.
    Heavy ownerless would show you unit counts in adjacent spaces but not owners.
    I could also see an application for seeing unit counts on all spaces and no owner information at all and seeing owners of all spaces but no unit counts at all.
    Credit to Amidon37 for the initial idea.

    See here: http://www.wargear.net/forum/showthread/293/Suggestions_for_Fog_and_View-only_borders


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    Edward Nygma wrote: There's good and bad to most suggestions. I'm happy with how far the site has come so far already. I have ideas of things I would like implemented, but I have to give tom "hella credit" for what he's done already. You too Yertle, thanks for admin-ing.

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    I have no earthly clue what you're talking about, but that definitely sounds like a line I'm going to be using regularly.

    As a matter of fact...

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    Yep, that's a new sig for sure.

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    Don't worry asm, no one will ever suggest that you're a good player. ;-)


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    Tom, can we lower the territory bonus? I would like to assign a +1 for every 20 territories owned.

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    Sure will do.


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    Cool.

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    The circles look great tom, thank you. Has there been any talk of "team continents"? Not only if team A controls this team A gets +x/the number of player on team A per player. Also, Team Only continents, where All of Team A must occupy this continent (each player has at least 1 territory in it) for Team A to get a bonus.


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    Mongrel wrote: Tom, can we lower the territory bonus? I would like to assign a +1 for every 20 territories owned.

    Actually, could you make it +1 for every 25?

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    Yertle wrote:
    M57 wrote:

    Invisible or Permanently Fogged: Only overridden by an explicitly placed view border. Possibly you could have a pull-down menu for what is fogged: # of ArmiesPlayer Control, or Both.

    I haven't given too much thought to how many applications it could have, but it seems like there could be quite a few.

    A Fog setting per territory (or allowed to be overridden at the territory level) has been talked about on the WF forums (just for kicks) and I think it's been brought up a time or two here.  It would be kind of cool, but with the ability to have custom Fog I know I would be annoyed/stay away of some of the implementations of it :P

    So would I, but like most enhanced game-play features, I very much appreciate them when they make sense in terms of the over-all concept of the board.    I read Kjeld's original post and I think he covered just about every possible permutation of the feature.  I agree with others that some of the options have limited use, but I really love the idea of creating blind spots on a board by being able to over-ride fog settings at the individual border level.  Reading on, I noticed that those that supported the idea were further discussing the range of customization of fog-types.   I would be very happy with a drop-down menu with a limited range for simplicity's sake.

    Re: what to call it.  I'm not so sure I like "Shadow", "Cover of Darkness", or "Camouflage", because they imply its uses.  I think this is a "keep it simple stupid" candidate. How 'bout "Fog Setting", or "Individual Custom Fog Setting"?

    Ed Nygma wrote: There's good and bad to most suggestions. I'm happy with how far the site has come so far already. I have ideas of things I would like implemented, but I have to give tom "hella credit" for what he's done already. You too Yertle, thanks for admin-ing.

    +1 on all counts..


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    Mongrel wrote:
    Mongrel wrote: Tom, can we lower the territory bonus? I would like to assign a +1 for every 20 territories owned.

    Actually, could you make it +1 for every 25?

    I'm very curious what kind of board would only give +1 for 25 territories, and why I would ever want to play it. :P

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    This would be for low unit boards like five or some other ideas we have cooking.


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