Some players think these two are the same people or they have an alliance in every single game. They have played over 20 2-player games and ASHM wins them all. Has anyone had dealings with these two players or any suspicions?

I think they are the same person and there play is very suspicious!

Agreed..  ashm is cheating.

In this 2-player game against ashm, VITO effectively commits suicide by attacking with 1 army the entire game.

http://www.wargear.net/games/player/23398

Then in this 3-player game, VITO attacks david-james with 3 until he's eliminated, then reverts to attacking ashm with one.

http://www.wargear.net/games/player/23408

This is a clear violation of policy.  ashm and VITO need to be banned and all games they "won" need to be erased from the record.

A quick look at VITO's game list makes it very clear what's going on.

CHeers M57, its good when someone agrees. Its a difficult situation because one does not want to ruin a legitimate players record. But I am confident that something fishy is going on. I left a message on Tom's page (I am not a premium member so I cannot PM him). If I am correct then that is two cheats I have caught in 2 weeks :)

Draw and quarter, send pieces to villages so that they may be an example to others.

i.e., Doot 'em.

Interestingly enough, VITO just came on the scene recently. ashm's play previous to this doesn't appear to raise any red flags. In the course of a week or so they initiated some 20 games, all of which ashm conveniently won. They claim to live on different parts of the globe. Who want's to bet they don't have the same ISP?

Oh yeah, and what Mongrel said.

M57 wrote:

Interestingly enough, VITO just came on the scene recently. ashm's play previous to this doesn't appear to raise any red flags. In the course of a week or so they initiated some 20 games, all of which ashm conveniently won. They claim to live on different parts of the globe. Who want's to bet they don't have the same ISP?

Oh yeah, and what Mongrel said.

I was going to say this. Careful with wiping ashm from the record because he has played some legit games.

I say draw and eighth them. Why stop with half measures?

IRoll11s wrote: I say draw and eighth them. Why stop with half measures?

I think a prime number would be more painful. Carve 'em into 7ths. Or, if you go for 11, maybe the pieces will be small enough that they'll stay alive and conscious for more of it. Who said math isn't fun?!

liars,because i have beat vito ofthen and have had some alliances with him,does not meen that i am him.
So stop spreading false roumers.

http://www.wargear.net/games/player/23309

Just rewatched the history in this 3 player game with Ashm and Vito. It clearly shows they did not attack eachother until I was completely gone and then once I was eliminated, Vito constantly attacks Neutrals with 1 dice while Ashm's armies take out Vito with no retaliation.

Shame on you Ashm. We did have some good games. But clearly you are a dishonest child. I'm hoping the admin do what's right.

Shame on you Cabrao.Bad loser.

Watch the game Ashm. Be a man and just admit you cheated in most games recently. The evidence is strong enough that any denial just makes you look like a fool.

We had an alliance against you.Bad looser??

So explain why Vito attacked neutrals with only 1 dice until you completely destroyed him? Why would he attack me with full troops and then force himself to lose?

Ask him not me,cant remember the game.

That's why I posted it.

Like I said.

A Fool.

how old are you 2 ????

fool.

ASHM................I look at a lot of things and I agree with everything that Cabrao has said. Often ASHM and VITO last visits (as stated on their homepages) would be at exactly the same time! Its funny how vito has gone on Vacation since all this has been revealed. ARe you trying to cover up ASHM...............I think we will call this ASHMGATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!