To Suopland: See this thread for the issue we are trying to deal with as a community: http://www.wargear.net/forum/showthread/320p1/Take_a_look_at_this

To both of you: I'm sorry that we have upset you. It is clear (at least to me) at this point that you two are not working together in a 'cheating' way. As the thread I linked explains, we are trying to eliminate cases in which 2 players work together from the outset of the game to improve their winning percentages. Please understand that this has nothing to do with you specifically, the general decision made in the other thread was to bring the issue up in the forums if it was thought to exist. It's been brought up, and dealt with.

Thanks, and see you in game. :-)

Threads like this do have a long history, so it must seem very strange to the uninitiated. Didn't someone make the WF top 25 by using multiple accounts to win lots of games? I can never remember that guy's name.

Another thread of this nature (much shorter, much less eventful than the one bengaltiger posted):

http://www.wargear.net/forum/showthread/427

I think in general we should be able to see more in depth history. It would be nice to review statistics of winning and losing strategies and see what the factors are. On other sites it is much easier to see game statistics.

I love these conversations. Reading through them helps start my week off on the right foot.

Suopland wrote: by the way, i forgot to ask of what i am accused, i still don't see what is the issue since by now we had just some pointing at one, two, three games and asking the others whether they see something "STRANGE" there...

Suopland wrote: it's not correct to make such comments, if other players start believing to these paranoias i guess few of them will like to play with me, so it s almost a slander what asm and bengaltiger are doing.

I know it's been established that you're kind of an idiot, but I still have to ask - you don't see anything funny about these two posts side-by-side? How can it be slander when even you can see that you haven't been accused of anything?

This post started because I wanted to find out if it was possible to easily see how many times you had played with the other guys in that game. Once I was told it was not, I asked for other peoples' opinions on what happened. People have given their opinions.

If you want more people to like to play with you, try to play better.

i don't like offending anyone but i see you arejust asking me to tell you how pathetic you are. however, i was accused of playing in the incorrect way, my question was what actually i did wrong, i think it would have been clear even for the 5yearsold child. Now the case is closed, i really doubt that other discussion might bring anything of good. and don t forget asm that if i am really such a bad player i can always improve, whereas you obviously can't go further than a miserable, paranoic and virtual existence of your own

Suopland wrote: however, i was accused of playing in the incorrect way, my question was what actually i did wrong

You have been accused of nothing.

My opinion is that in the game I initially referenced in this thread, your move was stupid. You say you did it to try to eliminate light blue, which is obviously false because you never had enough units to get to his territories in North America. In reality what you did was make sure that green could eliminate him. I haven't seen you address this point at all.

Now the case is closed, i really doubt that other discussion might bring anything of good.

Then stop talking about it. I thought we had settled this between us via PM.

and don t forget asm that if i am really such a bad player i can always improve,

I wish you luck with that.

whereas you obviously can't go further than a miserable, paranoic and virtual existence of your own

Riiiiiight.

So much unneeded hostility...

Interesting fact, Otium and Suopland both joined February 15th.

Ooo the plot thickens!

Apparently refreshing the page reposts the message.  Doublepost.

Also, I'm a shit-disturber so don't pay attention.

Andernut wrote:

Also, I'm a shit-disturber so don't pay attention.

This comment brought to mind some sage advice for walking through a bar. Never ask if you can push another man's stool in.

...

Unless that's your kind of thing, and double entendre is your ice breaker.

Andernut wrote:

Apparently refreshing the page reposts the message.  Doublepost.

Also, I'm a shit-disturber so don't pay attention.

Thank goodness you're here. Up til now I've been the only one.

asm wrote:

Andernut wrote:

Also, I'm a shit-disturber so don't pay attention.

Thank goodness you're here. Up til now I've been the only one.

Maybe you two should go on a date.

Jealous?

Andernut wrote: Interesting fact, Otium and Suopland both joined February 15th.

Ooo the plot thickens!

it's clearly an evidence against us XD

does it work against asm and hugh as well? they both joined wargear november 7th...

yeah we don't allow those to in games together either!

Actually it's funny, I just checked and in games Hugh & I are both in together, one or the other of us wins the vast majority of them. Of course, the only thing that this is actually evidence of is that Hugh is almost as awesome at WarGear as I am.

And that a cheating strategy would have one predominate winner.

Actually, not necessarily. If two players were to play 8-player games together all the time and ensure that one OR the other of them wins as many as possible (basically playing as a team until they've killed off everyone else), both players' ratings would go way up if they were successful.

Andernut wrote:

Apparently refreshing the page reposts the message.  Doublepost.

Also, I'm a shit-disturber so don't pay attention.

Down here in Oz, we say "****-stirrer", not "disturber".  Fascinating.