As per the title... how would you like the board payment system to work?

Would you want fixed price for unlimited use, pay as you play, a designer specified number of free plays before you have to pay... open to ideas here!

Bah, none of us are really here to "make money" off of sites like this. Anything we do make is just some nice change to have for unnecessary internet spending and coffee purchases.

I'd be in favor of a fixed price for unlimited play. Unless someone smarter can come up with a really cool plan? Yertle? ;)

Whoops, I didn't see this until I had already posted my thoughts in the suggestions forum. Go check out my ideas there.

I dont get the payment system here - i have to pay do make board designs, shouldnt it be the other way? I mean, i would generate content for free for your page and for more players to enjoy, and i have to pay to do that? Shouldnt i get some free time as premium member, medals or similar stuff for helping you?
I will definately not pay $$$ to upload my map, which failed without any warning due to lack of premium membership.

edit: ok, i am a premium member - why? But why cant i upload my map, it is a jpg with 1000x750 and 204kb.

SmokinMan wrote:

I dont get the payment system here - i have to pay do make board designs, shouldnt it be the other way? I mean, i would generate content for free for your page and for more players to enjoy, and i have to pay to do that? Shouldnt i get some free time as premium member, medals or similar stuff for helping you?

I believe tom is working on a way in which you can sell your board designs to other players.  By selling one of your boards you would recieve a portion of the sell, so you would be making money and possibly be able to pay for your premium membership via board sales (and potentially have some left over to pocket).

As for the inability to upload maps, are you able to Create a New Board on the Boards >> Board Designer tab?

Ok, that makes more sense to me ;-)

I created the board in the tab, but when i try to upload the image nothing happens - it says Upload Complete, i click the "X"-Button and then theres no map. Am i doing something wrong here?

SmokinMan wrote: I created the board in the tab, but when i try to upload the image nothing happens - it says Upload Complete, i click the "X"-Button and then theres no map. Am i doing something wrong here?

The Settings page of the Board Designer Flash actually doesn't change.  If you select the Design tab of the Board Designer Flash is your board present?  (It should also be present as a small preview when the Dev tab is selected of the main Board Designer page).

The Design tab says i should load a image in the settings tab. Theres no preview image in the Dev tab.
Heeeelp! ;-)

SmokinMan wrote: The Design tab says i should load a image in the settings tab. Theres no preview image in the Dev tab.
Heeeelp! ;-)

Hmmm, I'm getting the same thing now too, in both Firefox and IE, I can't load an image.  I wonder if tom broke something if he worked on the changing the board image.

Ok, back on topic. 1st off, I don't care or think I am ever gonna lead a pimpin' lifestyle by making maps but I do like not having to pay from my premium membership. I have 2 suggestions:

1. No map payment system but maybe 30 days premium for every map released that makes it through the review stage. That would be cool and with the review process we can be sure people aren't just making crap for the free premium.

2. Perhaps have some features available if you purchase a map rather than just for open play. Things like different types of cards and some rules customization. You could make it so rules aren't alterable unless you have purchased the map. They can't change the design too kinda like moddiing on the other site.

Personally, I like the first idea since it advocates making maps and gives the review process more of a reason for being rather than just to weed out stuff that people make that was not really that well thought out.

The problem with #1 is that is generates negative revenue, essentially it makes tom pay for all the maps =/

I'd go with #2, whatever #2 turns out to be.

It wouldn't really be tom paying because:
A) not everyone would be making maps but there are other advantages to premium membership. On WF, tom himself was a plus member but didn't make maps.
2) only the very very few could come up with an average of 1 map a month that would make it through review if the review system is gonna be honest. I know that half of my WF maps wouldn't really make it through this review system.
III) I know all I did with my map money was buy plus memberships so maybe if it was something like a set scale of purchase you got a month for every map sold.

Personally, I would like money taken out of it all together since I don't play or design for the money but I would like to be acknowledged for the time that I put into my maps. Heck, I churn out crap for the most part, I really think the great designers should be rewarded, make me pay to be able to hang out at the cool kids table. I'm used to that......Junior High was difficult for me and it wasn't even the cool kids table, it was the marching band table.

what about having a WarGear 'bank" where someone can put money into. from the WarGear "bank" you are able to buy membership or maps or convert your $ into points or points into $.the points could be worth $.50 per point ( the points could be a diffrent value other then 50 cents)

with the points you are able to buy maps ( the points go directly to the desighner), buy maps for other people, buy a tourniment starter kit(alows you to start a tourniment on a board that you dont own). if you own a board you could start a tourniment and have points for a prize. buy WarGear gear(if tom desides to sell shirts/hats etc). the list could go on and on

buy into points only tourniments, you could set it like a poker tourniment where everyone buyes in for X amount of points(determind buy the person who starts the tourniment) but wargear takes a small % of the total buyin and the winner(s) get the rest.  eg. 30 people buy into a tourniment for 2 points each =60 points=30$. tom gets a 5% take 6 points=3$  and the winner of the torniment gets 54 points put into there WarGear "Bank" that they can cash out if they want. Or you could have the prizes diffier like a 1st,2nd,3rd place all get points

you could get points for being on the leader board, creating a map (that makes the review proses) having your map reach the top of the WarGear favorits page (diffrent idea for a diffrent thread...)or any sort of thinges

anyway thats my 2 cents its not pirfect but im tired so im done for now... excuse the spelling...

ok so Toaster already had a points idea soooo ill just agree with him i would like to say that having a option to play a game/ tourniment for points or $ i think that it would truly set this site apart... just imagin if you get into a argument with a player and want to settle who is the better player you could start a "put your points where your mouth is" best 3 out of 5 tourniment then you could not only have bragging rights but you can take there points.

yes there is a whole lot that will have to change (extra scurity etc, etc.)  if you look at all the poker sites for example thay are making a killing on all the cash games and the site owners are very well off.i can see this option no only being a way to set this site above the others(not that it isnt already) and turn this site from a small amount of income for tom into possably the main income and that inturn could free up some capitol to maby hire some of the people that are already helping tom with this site.

incase you missed it i think a points system is a good idea ;)

No points. Points are a mechanic used by organizations trying to fleece their customers out of extra dollars. Nolan Bushnell (guy who started Chuck E Cheese, among other things) has written volumes on how easy it is to get people to part with points instead of money. I'm hoping this place keeps it on a higher road than that.

I like having some way to pay for boards, just because I like to have the option of supporting fellow map makers, and even if it's not a lot of money, it's cool to think that someone likes your board enough to give you a couple dollars. Plus if wargear skims a bit off the top, then it's another way they can make money, and help to keep premium membership fees down.

Speaking of premium membership - it does seem a bit weird to have to pay for the privilege of creating boards for wargear. Is this just a holdover from warfish? I understand that boards take up resources, but I think having to be a premium member also keeps out people who might give it a shot, and then decide they really like it. How about if you could create boards with a free membership, but you could only store 1-3 boards on the site. Premium members could create an unlimited # of maps. That allows a dabbler to try out making a board, and allows someone to get familiar with map making without having to shell out any cash.

Maps should be pay per play unless they want to pay a larger fee and purchase the map for infinite uses.

I also like the idea of money being used in the game system either in points or as actual money exchanged. (Points would have less legality involved I think.)
Points/money could be used to purchase maps, rent a 1 time use, bet on games, etc. Points should be easily transferable to and from actual money.

Severene wrote: Maps should be pay per play unless they want to pay a larger fee and purchase the map for infinite uses.

I also like the idea of money being used in the game system either in points or as actual money exchanged. (Points would have less legality involved I think.)
Points/money could be used to purchase maps, rent a 1 time use, bet on games, etc. Points should be easily transferable to and from actual money.

Quite a bit of a discussion here on this subject.

Sorry, this document cannot be found.

http://www.wargear.net/forum/showthread/37/Payment_ideas

I don't think the forums are completely compatible with links sometimes :P