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    Premium Member Kjeld
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    Anyone remember how the board difficulty labels are set or who has power over that setting?

    I ask because my Arena board is labeled "Beginner", which is just... wrong.

    http://www.wargear.net/boards/view/Arena+Standard+Play


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    Standard Member Korrun
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    I think the board difficulties labels should definitely be completely revamped. I would be glad to be a part of that process.


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    Shelley, not Moore Ozyman
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    I think Yertle was doing them.  I don't know if he still does.  Since he's less active now maybe Tom could give that ability to some more people.


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    Prime Amidon37
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    https://youtu.be/4zIoElk3r2c?t=10

     

    I'll change it 


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    Standard Member Korrun
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    Has anyone defined specific requirements for the three levels or is it mostly subjective at the moment?


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    Standard Member Korrun
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    Starting in alphabetical order with just the beginner boards (the most important to get right with the new players).

    • Another brick in the wall could be intermediate instead of beginner (dice mods, hordes bonus, and unit caps)
    • Arm Wrestle could be moved to intermediate instead of beginner (dice mods)
    • Battlestar moved to intermediate from beginner (dice mods)
    • Bear River moved to intermediate (dice mods and unit caps)
    • Brawl to intermediate (Simulgear)
    • Capital Crusade moved to intermediate from beginner (capitals, dice mods, artillery)

    Edited Sun 29th Mar 15:01 [history]

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    Prime Amidon37
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    Korrun wrote:

    Has anyone defined specific requirements for the three levels or is it mostly subjective at the moment?

    Subjective - I've been the one updating the levels and the tags for quite a while.

    I have never done an "audit" so there may be quite a few that could be moved.

    I changed the ones you suggested (except Bear River since it's mostly straight forward game play)


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    Standard Member Korrun
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    • Darkness Falls to either intermediate or advanced
    • Gates of Hell to advanced
    • King of the Mountain to intermediate
    • Knight's Tour to intermediate
    • Land and Sea to intermediate
    • Lego X Factor to intermediate
    • Miners to advanced
    • Neverland to intermediate

    And I'll skip ahead for right now to

    • Stellar Conflict to advanced


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    Brigadier General M57 M57 is offline now
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    Just looking at my boards, these would be my recommendations.

    Quantum Entanglement to Intermediate from Beginner.  (Some of the Scenarios have very complex factory schemes.)

    King of the Mountains to Intermediate from Beginner.  (Dice Mods + unusual continent scheme.)

    Anarchy to Intermediate from Advanced.  (The factories just do their thing and add a lot of armies. Otherwise the board plays like normal with larger continental bonuses.  Really, it could be a Beginner board.)


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    Prime Amidon37
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    Korrun wrote:
    • Darkness Falls to either intermediate or advanced
    • Gates of Hell to advanced
    • King of the Mountain to intermediate
    • Knight's Tour to intermediate
    • Land and Sea to intermediate
    • Lego X Factor to intermediate
    • Miners to advanced
    • Neverland to intermediate

    And I'll skip ahead for right now to

    • Stellar Conflict to advanced

    Done


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    Prime Amidon37
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    M57 wrote:

    Just looking at my boards, these would be my recommendations.

    Quantum Entanglement to Intermediate from Beginner.  (Some of the Scenarios have very complex factory schemes.)

    King of the Mountains to Intermediate from Beginner.  (Dice Mods + unusual continent scheme.)

    Anarchy to Intermediate from Advanced.  (The factories just do their thing and add a lot of armies. Otherwise the board plays like normal with larger continental bonuses.  Really, it could be a Beginner board.)

    Done


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    Prime Amidon37
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    I also moved a few others from Beg-> Int


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    Standard Member Johasi Vidad
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    Thanks for the proactive upkeep guys

    Board Revival Group - http://www.wargear.net/forum/showthread/4082p1/Board_Revival_Group

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    Enginerd weathertop
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    Looking at my boards: 

    I think they're rated appropriately. (tho i really should just retire Whittle)

    How do players go find boards based on rating? 

    I'm a man.
    But I can change,
    if I have to,
    I guess...

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    Standard Member Thingol
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    Boards —> all boards tab, select green, yellow or red (I think green is simple, red advanced).


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    Premium Member Yertle
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    Ozyman wrote:

    I think Yertle was doing them.  I don't know if he still does.  Since he's less active now maybe Tom could give that ability to some more people.

    Yep, I definitely fell off updating these a while back :/ It's possible there are some defaults that get applied so the board shows up with some filters.

    It was pretty subjective when I was doing it, although I did try and stay consistently subjective :P I think that even if there were some slightly more advanced features to a board if it was in their simple form then they could still be on the easier side (for example simple modifiers). Definitely open to adjustments though!

    Thanks Amidon for updating!

    You have been granted the title of Strategist!

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    Premium Member Pratik
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    I'm not sure how Amidon is currently making the changes, but just to add some perspective.

     

    When I joined WarGear a few years ago (with a bunch of other folks), we regularly used to check the difficulty label to identify boards to play on. Did this for a while till we noticed that the difficulty label didn't always make sense.

    The point here is that for beginner boards, it would be make sense, IMO, to only include boards without any advanced features, such that someone new to the WG interface can explore different boards easily.


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    Standard Member Thingol
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    Definitely a good point Pratik and timely for Kjeld to create this thread.


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    Ok - My next post will have the list of all boards set at the easy level.

    I am thinking that we want to take out boards that 

    a) Use Capitals

    b) Where Return to attack from Fortify or Placement is a significant part of the play

    c) Deviate significantly from standard RISK

    d) Make extensive use of factories

    What is ok:

    a) 1 way borders

    b) Territory caps

    c) Artillery/Vision borders

    d) Fog

    e) a few factories

     

    For boards with scenarios we rate by the most commonly played scenario

     

    Feel free to debate me on these.

     


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