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    Standard Member ratsy
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    I searched for the other bad beat page, but it looks deleted.  So here's a new one. 

     

    I had this! ...and the friggin' dice said:  'No.'   (And my opponent did good too)

     

    http://www.wargear.net/games/player/520895 ;

     

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    Standard Member Thingol
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    Just had a turn where attacking 3v1 (d6, no attack/defend advantage) had one stretch of 2 kills vs 10 losses. The defender rolled the following on Crystal Caves:

    6, 6, 6, 6, 4, 6, 1  then followed with 5, 5, 5, 6, 4.  I won where he rolled 1 and later 4.

    So, the defender averaged 5.0 over those 12 rolls.

    I wonder what the most consecutive singleton 6 rolls on d6 is?


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    ratsy wrote:

    I searched for the other bad beat page, but it looks deleted.  So here's a new one. 

    I had this! ...and the friggin' dice said:  'No.'   (And my opponent did good too)

    http://www.wargear.net/games/player/520895 ;;

    History is not available on this board so we can't appreciate your pain.

     

    And thanks for the quote -


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    Thingol wrote:

    Just had a turn where attacking 3v1 (d6, no attack/defend advantage) had one stretch of 2 kills vs 10 losses. The defender rolled the following on Crystal Caves:

    6, 6, 6, 6, 4, 6, 1  then followed with 5, 5, 5, 6, 4.  I won where he rolled 1 and later 4.

    So, the defender averaged 5.0 over those 12 rolls.

    I wonder what the most consecutive singleton 6 rolls on d6 is?

    I'm bad at statistics (thats why I went into Chemistry), but I'm sure somebody here can figure out the probability of 5-20 (or whatever) consecutive 6's. More than 5 in a row feels to me like its getting into ridiculous luck territory.


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    Standard Member Thingol
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    Would the odds be calculated as the inverse of simply 6 to the n-1 power (where n=the number of consecutive 6's) or is that too simple a formula?

    Edited Wed 14th Sep 00:40 [history]

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    (1/6)^n


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    Standard Member Thingol
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    Thus far in the game, I'm 82-and-76 in 3v1 attacks (no advantage/disadvantage on attack/defense border mods). I'm actually still alive in the game by some miracle.  In 158 rolls, I wonder what the 'average' win count would be?

    Edited Thu 15th Sep 13:32 [history]

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    Premium Member Mad Bomber
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    Ok. Just lost eight in a row to a singleton. 6 sided vs 6 sided

    i want equal amounts of blueberry's
    I play on any field of battle...not just five boards

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    Premium Member Mad Bomber
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    Babbalouie rolled 6 6 6 6 6 5 6 5 2

    i want equal amounts of blueberry's
    I play on any field of battle...not just five boards

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    Standard Member Thingol
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    I hate that. Losing any more than 2 or 3 to a singleton just sucks.

    So, it looks like, out of 158 rolls 3v1, the attacker can expect to win 103 to 105 times.


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    Mad Bomber wrote: Babbalouie rolled 6 6 6 6 6 5 6 5 2

    That's nasty, but rolling five 6's in a row is only a 1 in 7,776 proposition.  That's probably happened a more than just a few times on this site.  As for the 5 6 5 we have to factor in the probability that you wouldn't roll a 6 with three dice on two of those rounds.  Still, I'm going to guess that the probability closes in on 1 in 100,000.  Time to play the lottery if you believe the odds gods owe you one.

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    Standard Member ratsy
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    So I'm clearly the worst player ever, and this is undeniable proof:

    http://www.wargear.net/games/view/528825

    I've got +43 luck on Hawaii and these guys are killing me. {#emotions_dlg.rofl}

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    Premium Member Mad Bomber
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    Ok.....just lost nine in a row to a singleton.....5 vs 6......so I guess it's "better" than 6 vs 6....

    i want equal amounts of blueberry's
    I play on any field of battle...not just five boards

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    i just had 12 to try to take out two singletons...didn't make it.

    I'm a man.
    But I can change,
    if I have to,
    I guess...

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    An amazingly lucky attack (lose 4, kill 16) followed by an unlucky attack (lose 25, kill 15), and then I take the crown with just 2 units... which of course fail to take the rose. Beginning c. 1208.

    http://www.wargear.net/games/view/532285

     


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    Standard Member Thingol
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    What are the odds on winning a d6 vs d4 roll? It's one unit vs one unit. Thus far, I'm 5-and-9 in said rolls, including twice losing 3-in-a-row.


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    Is that a 58% of winning?


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    Yes, 58% but that's one roll of the dice.  I did a 9d6 v 5d4 simulation of Ozyman's calculator and that came out to about 0.4% but that simulator throws 3v2 dice whenever possible, so it's gotta happen more often than that.   I don't know how to go about figuring this one out.  With a differential of 4 units, it's tempting to say that it's based on the the extra number of losses required or .52^4= 3%, but that's just the probability of losing 4 in a row. Besides, losing 9v5 has got to happen more often than losing 100v96 with those dice mods.

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    Thingol wrote: What are the odds on winning a d6 vs d4 roll? It's one unit vs one unit. Thus far, I'm 5-and-9 in said rolls, including twice losing 3-in-a-row.

    I agree with Korrum.

    There are 24 possible outcomes and you win 14 of them.  14 / 24 = 58.33%.  This assumes that the defender wins ties.

     


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    SquintGnome wrote:
    Thingol wrote: What are the odds on winning a d6 vs d4 roll? It's one unit vs one unit. Thus far, I'm 5-and-9 in said rolls, including twice losing 3-in-a-row.

    I agree with Korrum.

    There are 24 possible outcomes and you win 14 of them.  14 / 24 = 58.33%.  This assumes that the defender wins ties.

     

    Right, but I assumed Thingol knew that.  I was considering the tougher question.. "What is the probability of going 5-9 rolling d6 v d4?"  If you ran simulations and included all outcomes of remaining units, I think it would be a normal distribution curve, but I'm not sure.

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